Thoughts on value, validation and love

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So here I am in Thailand. Last night I was in the process of engineering a threesome with 2 Thai girls. They were both attracted etc, comfort, well not too much I guess but it was pretty much on I think…Anyway, later on we were in a club and they were both dancing with me and I started to get tired, and bored…It occured to me that I would have to do some kind of strategising and work to extract them both, one of the girls had broken her shoe so we had to walk back to the bar to get a replacement, etc etc. On the way there, I was getting zillions of genuine IOI’s, which from experience here I could’ve turned into an f close within like 2 minutes (and not paying any money either). It’s ridiculously easy to pull here, almsot absurdly so.

That being said, I see, subcommunicated or otherwise, a lot of chodes who couldn’t do it as easily (or as cheaply, ha ha), as I can. A bunch of things give it away, there is no point in listing them but you can just tell from the guys actions that it’s not a part of their reality to suddently have 2 extra points on the value scale added to their attractivenss. Now for me, I can modestly declare that I am more well adjusted to it because of all this gaming stuff, my experience, plus I have been here over 2 weeks now so I am more used to it.

Anyway, so the threesome was on. But I couldn’t be arsed to pursue it as it would’ve required effort, I eventually ended up pulling another girl and doing the deed, whatever.

Point 1 :. question of value & my own personal preferences: I think this mindset comes about for 2 reasons

(i) I am not really bothered about f%&king loads of girls, I remember my newbie introduction 18 months ago (or thereabouts) where I stated I wasn’t in it to f^&k loads of girls..Well that stands more than ever. Things like threesomes, gorup s£x, whatver..that doesn’t impress me in the slightest, I just see little point in it, no big deal.
However..In this place Thailand where my value is inherently much higher than the UK : The level of commitment I place on any given interaction which may lead to f close is I think LOWER than it used to be for me (in the UK).

Now, I think this is probably due to my inherently higher value and ABUNDANCE MENTALITY..It’s much easier to hold an abundance mentality when you walk around and you have girls literally throwing themselves at you, and you know that you don’t have to work much to get them.

Leading me onto point 2…

I met a girl who I fell for quite hard (about 6 months ago, she is from Belarus, it’s over now due to my inability to commit, an important point)….But whilsit I was away travelling, or upset, or whatever frame I was in, I would always think of her fondly and invest a lot of emotion in my memories…This is key. I invested the emotion, in the MEMORIES!! I convinced MYSELF of this level of connection, and that I was in love etc etc.

When I was with her, for sure we got on but it was nowhere near the insane levels of emotion that I had created in my mind when I was away from her..When I was with her I STILL wanted to go out and f&*k other girls (I even told her this)

So putting the two together :

(i)
We convince ourselves we are in love (a hackneyed concept but it’s now internalised..It’s true)

We invest emotions and perhaps even create qualities in the other person when we are not with them..they become a SYMBOL, almost, of what we want..When we are not with them. The REALITY is more prosaic and far less intense.

Your inherent value and the availability of HBs is inverseley proportional to the level of commitment you are prepared to make to get any one particular girl..

Now, putting them all together, especially bearing in mind that any particular girl may STILL not create that mindset where you will be exclusive (sad but true)…Because that is why I was in the game..now that I realise that really it may never happen, that I will legitamately FEEL that feeling of complete and total love, of connection, closeness and exclusivity….

It’s GAME OVER. If you can internalise and FEEL at a gut level that when you are with an HB, regardles of how hot, if you can KNOW that in reality she is not some goddess or queen and that her value is MANUFACTURED in your own mind..then you’ve cracked it. You will no longer have those wibbly moments, you will never be nervous, you will never feel the need to impress, you will never be needy, you will never change or adopt your behaviour ONE IOTA in order to win her over…

And finally I think it’s sad, this realisation. Maybe there is no such thing as an incredible girl that you can fall in love with and stay exclusivly with her for the rest of your life. And maybe the combination of factors, the knowledge of game and the fact that you know you can pull lots of girls..maybe that prevents it from happening..

Vertex

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2 Responses to “Thoughts on value, validation and love”

  1. Richard says:

    Interesting post, but I kinda feel that you’re saying don’t fall head over heels for someone because you will get hurt, am I right?

    I have to disagree with that point, I don’t think theres anything wrong with holding a woman in high regard. Sure, it means it’s leaving you open to get hurt, but I would much rather be in a relationship where I could let my girl know that I’m madly in love with her but maybe the relationship will end. Rather than instead being in a relationship and playing a game with her and not showing her the affection I want to show her and just generally feeling very un-comfortable.

    Push/Pull works in the attraction stage, but by the time you’re in a relationship you should be leaving those tools behind I feel.

    I do agree with some of your points here, and I understand why this manufacturing of a girl’s value in our mind needs controlling but I really feel that we can still be successful and hold women in high regard.

    It would be awesome to get some commenting going on this post as there’s a lot to talk about here.

  2. Mohsin says:

    Thats a really interesting post dude, its a topic I have put some thought into myself. And all I can say is….I hope you’re wrong- as I’m sure do you! I think someone like Adam Lyons can stand as an example of how, at least some of the time, what you say does not necessarily hold.

    M

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