Something that PUA trainers get asked for most by guys who are first getting into this is openers. In this post I’m going to give you one opener, but more than that I’m going to give you a structure that will make a massive difference to the way that you open and the way that you view transitioning.
There are two mistakes that people make at first:
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They want too many openers – do you forget about an opener if it doesn’t go the way you hoped once? Stick with an opener that you identify with or care about the response. If you don’t care about the response then use an opener where you do care. Ban yourself from using Wikipedia to look things up – ask girls instead!
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They want a long involved opener – the opener should just be that; a way to open the communication. Students often complain that my openers are very short – the reason for this is that the shorter the opener, the quicker that you have to transition – and transitioning is one of the most important skills to get good at. So short openers mean more practice at transitioning.
So let’s see an example – I’ve included the conversational topics that I open up in brackets and the function that each part plays.
PUA: Hey, I need to ask you something, I’ve been talking this over with my friends all day; what’s the difference between a herb and a spice?
(Topics: Herbs/Spices)(This question makes most people think; it’s a simple question that most people don’t know the answer to)
HB: Umm, I think it’s because a spice is spicey
PUA: so does that make a herb, Herbie – wasn’t that a kids film about a runaway car?
(Topics: Kids films)(I’m lightly mocking her lack of knowledge but then linking it to a fun topic- a film that she might know)
HB: yeah, I loved that film
PUA: So you answered my spicy question with a bit of a blaggers answer. If you were to cook me a posh dinner would it have baked beans and fish fingers as the main ingredients?
(Topics: Cooking)(I have returned to the original topic to show you we can further explore it. I’m inviting her to qualify her cooking skills to me)
HB: Nah, I don’t cook very much
PUA: I only date girls who can cook – or at least better than I can
(Topics: Relationships)(Again more opportunity for her to qualify herself to me but the issue of how well I can cook is raised but not answered. This will probably be her next question.)
So from four lines come four topics that we can talk about; each one bigger than the last. This is the skill of transitioning, which is the opposite of most of our normal conversations which move from general topics down to specifics. I’ll go into more details about that process in a future post.
Let’s take a quick look at the structure above
Question : Something that you care about and are looking for advice or an opinion on
Respond to her response: Anticipate the obvious responses. If she gives a silly answer, call her out on it with a smile. Consider what her response could say about her as a person – this doesn’t need to be logically correct – “I guess that makes you a pretty serious/wild/sexual/adventurous/kind/geeky girl” can work wonders here.
Transition: Move to a bigger general topic but have it relate to her
Golden rule : if she can predict what you’re going to say then why should she wait around to hear you say it – be different.
Let me know how you get on.
Gulliver
That’s awesome Gulliver! Brilliant ‘Golden Rule’… I suppose it’s why the rapid kino escalation and non-verbal game you guys teach works so effectively – girls aren’t used to anything like it?? They’re expecting some boring conversation in a club when what they really want is someone who touches them, is different, confident, and makes them feel good!
Keep the good stuff coming mate!
Best read so far! make it sound so easy
gullliver is da man he taught me alot
Thanks Gulliver, really cool simple idea to keep in mind.
So I’m sure I’m preaching to the converted, but I guess this would be magnified by interweaving it with kino escalation, right? So you could almost apply similar rules to your kino- every time she gives you more atention you give her slightly more intimate kino- so by the end of this interaction you could be holding her hand, stroking her back etc…
Perhaps;
“if she can predict how you’re going to touch her then why should she wait around to be touched”
I’d like to pick up on the point a statement about her in a transition doesn’t need to be logically correct. This is so true, and once you fully realise this you’ll be able to switch conversational threads loads smoother. As a mathematician I’m a very logical person, which I believe is why I was naturally so bad with girls. If something wasn’t strictly true or didn’t make sense it used to annoy me.
A friend of mine was way uglier than me but had much more success with women. He was always exaggerating and making up bull crap stories, but they were interesting. Now I’m not condoning lying, but speaking in a way that evokes emotion is far preferable to being logically correct.
For example, at a salsa social event I danced with the mum of a hot daughter. After the dance the daughter smile and clapped, which I took as an approach invitation. I was then able to say ‘geez your mums worn me out with all that spinning she’s like lightning, I need a quick rest. Everyone laughed, I’ve thrown in a false time constraint. I can now sit down and talk about what I want and they’ll be comfortable listening to me. So this comment got v.good reactions even though logically it makes no sense. How can someone wear me out if they are spinning?