well, my opinion: you lost the last chance to approach ;) you just left this guy to stick around (a mistake), and with him around, she was getting cold/defensive/frustrated – for you too :) Just try to get her out quicker, even using the guy like ‘is he bothering you too? yeah let’s move out / change place / whatever’ :) that’s if you don’t like confrontations like suggested by Joker, but anyway don’t leave such guys a chance next ime :)

As for why she lost interest – you could analyse this forever – could just be that she has bad emotions associated with his actions/appearance/stereotype. Anyway you could state your objection as Dharan suggests – or just lead her away from him elsewhere. It reminds me of a story in the book God is a Woman where Ian Coburn was is in a club hitting on a girl under constant interruption from men surrounding him… so he picks her up on his shoulder, fireman style and carries her outside to his car!

Glad to see you still commenting on my posts.

RICHARD: I think you have the right attitude to game, you certainly don’t have to be rude and give out bad energy to get girls.
RESET: Glad you enjoyed the blog post =)
TOSH: Good answer, hope you read and enjoyed the actual blog post also.
JOKER: I agree you have to be willing to let the girl go, be non-outcome dependent. A good way to rapidly increase your pickup is to simply say to the girl, when the guy comes in interrupts and tries to amog you, ‘Hey who do you wanna speak to – Me or him?’
If she says you, take her hand and lead her away straight to the restaurant booths or where ever. If she says no, walk away politely, non-outcome dependent ;-)

Stay kool and keep gaming.

Your Friendly, Neighbourhood PUA Dharam ;-)

Dexterity and I were in Tiger Tiger on Saturday, and opened two of the hottest girls in the bar. Whilst I was gaming my girl, this random, average guy comes over and starts talking about absolute crap with her. She seemed like she was just being polite, and stayed engaged in conversation. I stood there, unwilling to let some guy twice my size (and weight) make me eject from the set I’d just labourously warmed. I laughed at some of his jokes when she wasn’t, to give me value for actually approaching the girl, to get possitive associations going. I don’t really believe in amoging, I think it’s pretty needy – better to just make friends with everyone, and leave everyone feeling good! Eventually, this guy leaves, and our conversation picks back up. At this point, we decided to lead the girls around to the restaurant booths.

Another PUA training under another PUA company tried to amog us on the way (and was actually doing a fairly good job until we called him out as a PUA, at which point became got self-conscious). I stood there, arm around, kinoing my girl whilst Dexterity did the same, but still allowed this guy to try and game our women. I felt total non-attatchment to any outcome, and didn’t care if he managed to take these women away, because we were having a great night anyway. The girls must have picked up on this, because they stayed with us without hesitation.

We lead these two around the bar, and our value was running very high (helped, for me, by the suit I’d bought with Ollie). We eventually both started making out with our respective girls on the dance floor. Things rapidly got quite physical, until the guy I was giving some value to earlier walk back bpast again, at which point my girl goes cold, and stops being so physical with me.

At this point, I felt as though my alue had decreased, and that’s when things started to decline. She stopped being physical and started looking around a lot. I used push pull to keep her around a bit longer, but I probably should have just walked away while things were still their most positive, and likely came across as a bit needy at this point. You’ve got to be willing to lose the girl to get her, and after getting physical, I wasn’t – so I lost her, and my high value in her eyes. Eventually she makes her excuses and goes to the “bathroom” (more likely went to go find the other guy, who I now think was either her boyfriend, a good friend who she didn’t want to hurt, or some guy she’d hooked up with at an earlier point, and social consequences were stopping her with advancing things with me)

I hope you guys can learn something from my experience!

Thanks again for another cool post Dharam :-)

who’s lying more? W,ell if a guy can follow the women’s emotional strategies, then maybe you dont know the answer :D :D

t0sh

hint: _emotional_. yeah something like that…

It’s all back to that PU rule of being polite (if you’re blown out of a set, smile and say ‘pleasure meeting you’ etc), and I think thats the way to go- you don’t want to leave any bad vibes in ANY of the interactions you make, especially in a club as it could put you off big time.

Always enjoy your thoughts mate, and I really appreciate the fact you answer comments and show a presence on these blogs.