Get the girls you want
I’m going to start 2009 by saying something controversial
Rating girls from 1 to 10 is stupid.
Let me tell you my reasons for thinking this.
Looks are personal – something I’ve noticed is that the more choice guys have with women, the more varied their tastes. When I’m out with the other PUATraining instructors, rarely do we agree on who the hottest girl is in the room. We’re all confident enough to express our own preferences – some like tall girls, some like short – some like cute looking rock chicks – others like ice cold Russians. But what we all agree on is that we want to spend out time approaching the girls that we find most attractive. I don’t think I’d enjoy the time we spend together half as much if we were all chasing the same girls!
Rating women on their looks reinforces a load of the bad stuff that probably stopped you from having choice with good looking women in the first place. So she’s a 9 by her looks? Are you a 9? What about all the other things that makes you a great guy? How about if she can’t even be bothered to get a job and would rather sit at home all day – is she still a 9? What if she’s a 7 but you get on amazingly and she has the best personality that you’ve ever met – are you somehow not aiming highly enough – should you chuck her and date a 9 who bores you?
Come on guys – this is about CHOICE with women. Pick up should be about broadening your horizons, giving you options that you didn’t have before. And this is about as limiting as you can get.
We need to start viewing women as the complete package – you spend time bettering yourself right? You want to make yourself a better person and grow and develop. Does she? So factor that into the equation – and the result of that equation shouldn’t be a number from 1 to 10 – it should be either you like her or you don’t.
It doesn’t matter what your friends think. It doesn’t matter what people on the internet think. All that matters is that you’re approaching the woman that you want to approach and that you’re giving yourself the greatest opportunity to meet someone who’s going to rock your world.
Happy New Year Everyone
I’d be really happy to hear your thoughts on this.
Yeh rating is a bit stupid because it so subjective.
Like a guy could be like YEH I FCLOSED A HB10 TODAY!!! in a Layreport but she might be a super duper slut whose like a HB 5 by my standards.
For some reason I rarely find girls super duper hot. maybe its an aura that makes them hot for me rather than their looks? or chemistry which creates the illusion that they are more attractive than they really are (physically) who knows!
whatever i guess
Love it Buddy
“Others like ice cold Russians” Love it ;-)
Good post and interesting points. I wouldn’t say rating a women is completely stupid if it based on the complete package (it can be fun) but is is actually another way that guys validate themselves to other guys, to show the value of their prize. “I took home a 9 last night etc.” Appose “to taking home a 6″ which generally is slightly easier but as you rightly say one man’s 6 is another man’s dream girl and that is great!…….. They can have my 6′s! ;-)
Also more importantly rating a girl straight off can effect your INNER GAME. If you see a girl as a ’9 or 10′ you are putting them on a pedestal. Nerves might kick in and even the most seasoned pros start ‘gaming too hard’ when they should be gaming less and getting her to game them. See them and treat them like the 6 which you know you can easily and have confidence with.
Key to great success if not being intimated by true beauty
Good post buddy
Rating can be good. If we value ourselves and have a strong inner game, we should only go out with a girl who we rate highly.
‘Key to great success if not being intimated by true beauty or obesity’
or obesity?
what!?
Like your post. Give it a nine ;)
Well…
I think that you wrong understand all about it… or I am…
Rating chicks have something with their looks, but it’s not only look… It’s her full presentation… If chick has low self-esteem, and she looks great (10/10); she is not 10… she is 7 or 8… She won’t have good body posture, her make up would not be perfect or something like that… She will unintentionaly lower her rate, because she is insecure…
So… HBRating isn’t here for boosting our ego’s… HBRating is for helping us in choosing way of gaming… and nothing more… (Because you wouldn’t game slutty bitch same as some insecure nice girl…)
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First off – Sure dude, as Pete said “I wouldn’t say rating a women is completely stupid if it based on the complete package.” I sure agree with that.
Secondly – “HBRating is for helping us in choosing way of gaming” – Ilija
Ilija sounds correct in theory but in practice makes no sense! (No offense but I suspect a armchair gamer.) A dude does not need to rate a chick in order to adapt his game. Just listen to her and build a connection & you’ll sure see where she is coming from. She is a human being not a robot to enter a code into, like a machine. Guys saying “she is 7 therefore I must employ tacic 4.5.” There is no secret formula that applies to a certain rating. This is what roboted PUAs with no personally do!
Sorry to sound rude guys, I just get sick of keyboard jockey PUAs giving out useless feedback & making it out to be like a computer game when it is in fact the game of life and very different.
Peace,
DB
Hey guys – thanks for the comments. Seems to have resonated with people.
I guess what I’m saying is that there are so many things about a girl that we may or may not individually find attractive that to distill it down to ten different numbers is foolish.
I agree that when you take into account more than looks it’s a little less foolish but it’s still not that helpful.
For instance, if a guy loves gymnastics, and he meets an average looking girl but she’s one of the top gymnasts in the world – might he not judge her a 10? Someone who isn’t interested in gymnastics might call her a 7 – does the rating system help them comunicate about her? Would it not be far easier for the guy to say what it is he finds attractive, then at least his friend would find it easier to understand him and how how he feels.
As human beings we have a tendency to assume that everyone looks at the world in a similar way when the more time you spend talking to people, the more you realise that people think all sorts of different ways – some so extreme that we find it difficult to even comprehend.
So, let’s try and get better at describing what is it we find attractive about people and as a by product perhaps we’ll find it easier to relate to them as individuals and as Danny says listen to her and build a connection that’s unique to the two of you.
This is interesting to me for a few reasons. I used to use rating scales, now I don’t and i’ve cut out pretty much all PUA lingo – listen to Adam and I talk for an hour and I think we don’t use any! But I do get subjected to other guys’ rating scales all the time – “wow look at that 10!” as the Mystery Method instructor points at a hideous beast. And I also take issue with guys that talk about a girl being a 10 because she has a cracking personality. That’s fine but when it comes to game, it’s all about winning the girl over in the competitive environment. The hottest girl is the one everyone wants. They don’t know that she is shit and the less attractive girl is amazing. If you get an ugly celeb, she is still not a 10 but your game is better if you get a celeb 6 than a regular 6 because she has other things that pump her value.
When i’m out with friends i’ll only ever say a girl is not hot, hot or incredible. I don’t use rating systems, they are geeky. I hate reading posts where guys say they opened a set of five HB10s. It’s just not going to be true, especially when they say they did in a club you know is full of ugly girls.
Ratings only account for looks, nothing else, that just makes it so much simpler.
Personal choice does come into it. Some guy might say he likes short fat girls, and Gulliver might rightly say that I like ice cold Russians. But, we all have to agree that there is a universal 10. Someone can say that the short fat girl is his perfect girl but I don’t think she can be called a 10 since she won’t be viewed as that by the majority and so is “easier” to pull (all other factors being equal). The societal 10 is either:
The playboy model (curvy, Brazilian style)
The fashion model (natural, skinny, Russian style)
A thin waist, big boobs, good skin, nice hair, beautiful eyes are pretty much universal. If a girl lacks one of these things then she is not as hot as she could be.
Problem for me is that i’ve never seen a perfect 10. I’ve seen only a handful of 9s…and those were mostly abroad.
In conclusion:
1. I don’t like rating girls and don’t do it.
2. I am subjected to and rarely agree with other guys’ rating scales.
3. Mine is the only true rating scale :) haha
Oh yeah, and i’d definitely date a “7″ on my scale over a “9″ if the 7 had the exact personality and character that I wanted. But ideally I find that in the 9!
“Others like ice cold Russians” Thought that was me buddy….
Gambler like them too? Shit! That is where all my Russian beauties are going!
“A thin waist, big boobs, good skin, nice hair, beautiful eyes are pretty much universal. If a girl lacks one of these things then she is not as hot as she could be.”
So true. I’d add arse, legs and pure, lush lips to that list! All women should be perfect! If not get to the gym and under the knife! (……I’m joking)
“Problem for me is that I’ve never seen a perfect 10. I’ve seen only a handful of 9s…and those were mostly abroad.”
I AGREE! I’m a club promoter but I rarely see a anything above a 8.5!
Maybe I need to get out more ;-)
Moscow maybe?
Pete, we speak the same language my friend!
Moscow is amazing, Riga is fantastic, Stockholm is very good. I could definitely find enough hot girls in Moscow, I was walking around with a permanent grin because of all the HBs. I like the attitude too, very classy, feminine, sexy girls. They are also strightforward and don’t play games. Just slightly worried that they might be cold and evil…;)
Email me gambler@puatraining and let me know if you promote in London.
I hope they will be cold and evil otherwise I’m not going……
Will e-mail you
I got a fetish for girls with short hair for some reason. like short short. like girl from alphabeat short. yeh….
in order to do well with women, using the natural method developed by you guys, do I need to take pictures, posing with my lips pressed agains each other, doing faces, like that long hair dude that is everywhere in the site ? or I can take normal picures ?
Jay relax buddy.
Life isn’t that bad lol
You definitely need to take the pics if you want to be REALLY good. If you are happy to be just okay then it’s not necessary. ;)
Gulliver’s spot on. I think guys who are truly good with women will agree that rating solely on looks is not of much use. The great thing with these “skills of the natural” is that we can rapidly find out about the woman’s personality and along the way we discover that actually some of the things we liked about women to start with have changed.
Gulliver says that PUAs have varied tastes, and I think our tastes get more varied as the choice you have increases. I know my tastes have certainly changed as I’ve discovered attractive qualities in women that I may not have noticed before.
Vive la difference!
What’s with the posting time being six hours behind??