Andy’s Guide to Direct Day Game

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Here’s the guide to direct street game:

http://www.puatraining.com/files/brochures/yosha-direct-street-game.pdf

Andy Yosha started working for us last year, but not as a trainer, he was our web designer.  His game sucked!  Like really badly.  Then something strange happened, I started hearing stories of him going out with other trainers and of getting girls back to his place.

The biggest shock was yet to come.  Andy came to Project Spring Break in Miami, and as I was eating lunch with him one day, he spotted a beautiful girl walking in the distance and ran up to her and came back with her number.  The body langauge was fantastic, there were IOIs everywhere, and he proceeded to do this EVERY time he saw a hot girl.  Since then he’s been doing this every day.

So, if you’d like to know the technique that Andy uses to get smoking hot models, in the day time, check out this fantastic guide:

http://www.puatraining.com/files/brochures/yosha-direct-street-game.pdf

Right click and choose “save target as…” to save it to your computer.  You’ll definitely want to refer to it again and again.

PS, Andy is now a trainer and has done hundreds of hours of training already.  He is getting awesome reviews and teaching guys to do exactly what he does on bootcamps and residential weeks.  The only problem is, now we have to find a new designer :(   On the plus side, we’ve got another amazing trainer!

PPS, comments are welcome, please post them below and Andy will be happy to respond!

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84 Responses to “Andy’s Guide to Direct Day Game”

  1. solved. says:

    If your looking for a new designer/developer send me an email.

    I usually read your posts. World of opportunities to be taken and all that.

  2. womesy says:

    Hey, i have just read through the pdf and i love it :-) i hate to point this out, there are some grammar errors, anyway i just thought i would say thank you for producing the pdf and i hope yosha gets an excellent night game as i would love to learn both day & night game from him in the near future.

  3. Devon says:

    Nicely done Yosha. Clear, concise and has inspired me for the weekend. I like your honesty and humility – a strength not a weakness.
    Wishing you good pua omens.

  4. maverick says:

    i liked the guide alot, thanks.
    i guess this kind of direct approach can be used at a night-club as well, thanks (:

  5. curious says:

    one could argue that that PDF is just a overcomplication of something rather simple.

    but then again daygame isnt that much of a difficulty for me so what do i know.

  6. curious says:

    ALSO

    the REMEMBER TO SMILE thing is a bit cliche because:

    1. no one smiles all the time.
    2. and on a web cast thing mystery and co. did they were like OMGZZZ SMILEZZZZ and they werent like super smiley themselves during the webcast only when something funny happened.

    i am disappointed.

  7. curious says:

    and not all guys are smiley types yet still are smoking hot! the introverted guys tend to be not smiley whilst the extroverted guys tend to be. but the introverted guys can be as outrageously sexy as an extroverted guy.

    one could argue.

    but what do i know.

  8. curious says:

    ALSO

    I admire the pretty pictures. Yosha has a keen sense of aesthetics.

    one may argue.

  9. Mark David says:

    Yes, this is an inspired PDF from Andy here.

    I did a weeks residential course from May 4th, and was taught by Andy, up and down Oxford Street, on the Thursday (7th).

    Everything that’s broken down in the PDF file herein this blog rang true for me – and has continued to since the residential.

    These direct techniques have, over this past week alone in Brighton, resulted in two instant dates, about 10 number/facebook closes, and a date arranged this Sunday on Brighton Pier.

    Once you start living your own reality by going in direct, completely in the moment, and totally unapologetic in doing so, you’ll never want to use lame opinion openers again.

    It actually feels truly liberating, by simply being honest. Make no mistake, there’s a lot of power – and attraction – in putting oneself on the line in this way. And it’s a sure fire way to leave women better than you found them!

    Thanks again, Andy.

    Mark

  10. Yosha says:

    I know, my spelling and Grammer is probably terrible. Designer: yes. Writing: No. That’s why you’ll notice I keep alot of my blog posts short and to the point (often with just video!) lol.

    Thanks for the comments guys, glad you like the PDF!

    Mark: Glad to hear from you mate – I’m so happy you’re doing well after the residential! Direct baby!

  11. Wayne says:

    Some really interesting content, but it needs to be proof read!

  12. Luis says:

    Right on!
    good read, when it comes to women i couldn’t possibly be more lost,so i really appreciate guys that went thru all the sucky experiences and are sharing what they learned with us so we can avoid perhaps some of the more bitter experiences of this learning process..

    personally as long as the msg is there, i dont care about you winning the spelling bee..

    Keep it up , you guys give guys like me a fighting chance and that gives us some hope lol!!

  13. PaulieP says:

    Good read, I enjoyed. Thanks for taking the time of putting it together. Got my motivated to go to the mall and talk to some women. Look for the follow-up.

  14. Sterling says:

    Hey Andy,

    nice overview…does this work for older guys approaching younger girls…I mean o l d e r g u y s…like 40+

  15. trippy says:

    Nice Post.

    I don’t mind the spelling, I am smart enough to pull just the content :)

  16. Andy Yosha says:

    Thanks guys ^_^

    Sterling: Absolutely. One of my recent clients was 42, and was number closing models by the end of the day ;)

  17. FitnessJohn says:

    Really, Really well put together e-book. A pleasure to read, and so true. Thanks Yosha

  18. Crush says:

    i fakin love it mate! lovely succint book, perfect! exactly what i was llooking for, im going to try it out tomorow, ill let you know how it goes!
    Can you get ollie to pull his finger out and put up some summer 2009 advice?!!

    big up yaself rude boi!

  19. FitnessJohn says:

    Get involved Crush http://bit.ly/h3VBS

  20. olumagnetic says:

    this pdf was very much needed. I do like the fact that it wasn’t boiled down to scripted openers , rather you are making us think. well done

  21. mojo says:

    This guide is pretty good and im going to go ahead and give this a shot. thanks yosha.

  22. Yosha says:

    Thanks guys ^_^

    I want EVERYONE to go out and try this!

  23. curious says:

    Dear Andy.

    If you were on your own (without friends/sarging buddies) could you approach a hot girl on the street and cold approach?

    Because i find theres less motivation doing street day game without sarging buddies.

  24. curious says:

    Dear Andy

    I skimmed through one of your articles out of general interest on the forum and somewhere you said that:

    Confidence: Isnt that just the absence of fear????

    Technically no? because one could argue no one is confident all the time and it takes a while to get warmed up for socialising/daygame etc. like it takes to get warmed up to get out of bed before you dont feel tired anymore.

    Also such writing gives the impression that confidence is some magically superman state that ‘PUA’s have all the time when i have yet to see a superman PUA.

  25. curious says:

    though it is always interesting to take someone else’s viewpoint and opinions into consideration when studying PUA since everyone has unique theories and standpoints by which to bring to the table

    one may argue…

  26. curious says:

    also

    one could argue that approaching girls isnt really that amazing because people like friendly guys and socialising with friendly people so who would say no to that.

    also one hears these ’stories’ of guys getting girls and slamming them after like 20 seconds. but think about it, are those guys just getting that same type of WHORES all the time? or are the women getting overwhelmed by the guy’s virility and masculinity like the guy in his layreport lies and pretends like she does?

    because if i was a woman with a vagina would i want some random PUA to shove his penis in my vagina? out of like 20 second? no. id want to build up trust to make sure he isnt stupid and would want commitment and to make sure he didnt have any diseases or anything before he could take ‘the plunge’.

    but if i was a woman who probably would never get a high quality guy id be like ok i guess and let some random guy shag me because i wouldnt get love any other way.

    ??????????????

  27. sexyboy says:

    i agree with curious.

    because on the forum the guys there post lay reports of the whores they shagged and think they are really cool when they probably whore themselves off all the time anyway. as if quantity of women somehow makes a difference.

  28. sexyboy says:

    on the forum they are like OMG WOMEN ARE SO BRAINWASHED BY SOCIAL CONDITIONING THAT SHE REJECTED HAVING SEX WITH MY DISEASED PENIS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo.

    also.
    1. a woman could get pregnant
    2. she could be labelled a whore and ruin a chances for a long term relationship.

    etc. imagine getting pregnant from a one night stand from a pua. if i was a woman id kill myself.

  29. Ambrus Faust says:

    Yosha…buddy yuour grammer sucks big time. As for the info in the pdf, I like your honesty about your weaknesses, but there are a lot of contradictions in what you say and what Mystery and Style teach.

  30. Yosha says:

    Hey Curious,

    I always approach when I’m on my own, but since I’m a big show off, its far more motivating when you’re with some mates! :) Regarding the confidence thing, you’re right – I’m yet to meet a superman pua. I still get scared by the REALLY hot ones!

    Hi Ambrus Faust:

    I know, my grammer is ridiculous. Next time I’ll get a writer friend to edit it for me before I hand it out to everyone!

    Regarding the contradictions in what Mystery & Style teach – that is because Mystery & Style teach nightgame (bars and clubs), which has completely different ‘rules’ to day-game. That’s just my opinion though – I could be wrong – that’s just from my experience. What do you guys think?

  31. curious says:

    Dear Andy,

    Dont you find approach girls a bit boring really. Especially on your own.

    I remember i did solo day game sarges in the past and for awhile it was like OOO how exciting then i was like god this is so boring!

    Also, one may argue PUA is a thing that you get into to get out. So technically theres a reason for that since shagging girls that one doesnt love is boring as fuck aswell as chatting up girls one doesnt really fancy.

  32. Yosha says:

    Hey Curious,

    Yeah I agree, it’s more fun if you’re with friends, but I think that applies to life in general – I’m always happier when I’m surrounded by friend.

    I don’t find sarging on my own boring though, I think it’s exciting. I only approach girls I really really fancy, so it’s can’t be anything but exciting!

    And I agree, having sex with girls that you have no feelings for gets old VERY fast. It’s ALL ABOUT finding a girl(s) that you think are awesome and really enjoy spending time with.

    So I’m never looking for an HB10 (hot babe 10), I’m looking for an AG10 (awesome girl 10)!

  33. Tom says:

    Hi Yosha,

    just loved this concise yet detailed stuff!

    In his book “The Natural Art of Seduction” Richard gave some missions in order to learn what he learnt. I find this very helpful.
    How can I learn/improve my DayGame bit by bit, step by step? If you could break down missions / a plan in order to learn DayGame, what would they be, do what how long / how many times etc.?

    You described that after enough approaches people who forget their value eventually won’t forget their value anymore.
    1. What if people don’t realise their value so much? In spite of having a good job, being very fit, active and outgoing, interested in many things and more or less good looking, I feel I’m just a normal guy so I don’t feel “HIGH” value, just “normal” or average. How can I get myself to perceiving myself more as “high value”?
    2. I often experienced that I hardly see many well approachable HBs in DayGame. I often sit 2 hours in the afternoon on a lively plaza or walk around but the few hotties are either accompanied by friends or talking on the phone.
    What times and places/venues would you recommend for DayGame?

    I could not find Ollie’s fashion-PDF. Would it be possible that you post the link please?

    Thanks a lot and all the best. Tom

  34. Anthony says:

    Hey Andy!

    Is your style similar to Gunwitch Method, as his method is direct too? I always wanted to learn something like that.

  35. Yosha says:

    Hi Tom,

    Regarding missions, with direct street game I would say a great place to start is:

    1) approaching every single girl you fancy, and just giving them a very direct compliment, i.e, “I just had to tell you, I think you look stunning”. Then eject.

    2) Now try and STOP them, then give them the direct compliment, then introduce yourself, then eject.

    3) Now stop them, give them a direct compliment, but tell them continue the compliment making it more specific to THEM – e.g, “I had to come and tell you how stunning you look in that dress. And the way your hair falls over your face like that makes you look so fucking sexy… I jus had to come over and say hi”

    4) Now through it all together, and start to try and stay in set for a few seconds after the compliment.

    5) Now try and stay in set for 1 minute

    6) Now 5 minutes

    7) Now 10 minutes

    etc etc etc :) Hope that helps,

    Hi Anthony:

    I don’t know anything about Gunwhich, but I wouldn’t be suprised if my style is similar to other guys out there – going direct isn’t a new concept :)

  36. imran says:

    hello,
    i am like your suggestion. i am pakistani. i enjoy your comments and picture view.

  37. Amit says:

    Hi, I am Amit, I had get good knowledge from you , thanks very much,
    can u tell me how to impress married woman for a date.

  38. fofo says:

    Hi, I am Amit, I had get good knowledge from you , thanks very much,
    can u tell me how to impress married woman for a date.

  39. sighsigh says:

    i bet this pua theory doesnt actually work since like most guys who come up with these theories (to get a reputation for themselves over the internet) actually got laid in the first place so wtf do they know about how to go from zero to hero.

  40. Yosha says:

    Hey Sighsigh,

    I’ve tried to be as open and honest as I can with all of the information in the PDF. It’s not a ‘theory’ I’ve come up with sitting at a desk – it’s a break down of what I’m actually doing out there on the street.

    And regarding the zero to hero thing, sure I wasn’t a virgin when I got into this, nor am I some kind of super pimp now. But before PUATraining I was never getting the girls I wanted – and I DEFINITELY couldn’t approach girls I fancied in the street at all, let alone get laid from it.

    I remember at one point I did a 30 day challenge, and I remember going out to try some street game on Bond Street. I went out for 4 hours and approached….. NO GIRLS! lol – I was too scared!

    I’m probably gonna do a ‘transformation’ post soon so you can see the massive change over the last 2 years.

    Thanks for the comments guys :)

  41. Charlie says:

    so you got laid in the first place.

    yet you couldnt approach girls on the street?

    sounds incongruent?

    oh great another ‘transformation’ post. yes coz they obviously really mean much.

    it sounds like LIES because everyone thinks they started off really badly but somehow got good. ‘YEH MATE I WAS REALLY BAD. THEN I JUST I DUNNO GOT GOOD.’

  42. Charlie says:

    YEH MATE I COULDNT APPROACH GIRLS AT ALL INNIT SURE I GOT LAID HAD FRIENDS AND ALREADY HAD A SOCIAL LIFE BUT MATE I WAS JUST NOT CONFIDENT WITH GIRLS DESPITE THE FACT I ALREADY GOT LAID AND THEN I GOT SUPER GOOD SOMEHOW AND NOW I JUST GET GIRLS I WANT. IM NOT THAT GOOD AND REMEMBER I WAS REALLY BAD EVEN THOUGH I WASNT REALLY.

  43. Charlie says:

    cant wait to see yosha’s exaggerated lie of a transformation

  44. Yosha says:

    Hi Charlie,

    Thanks for taking the time to post your viewpoint. I totally understand how you can be sceptical in an industry like this – there are definately some charlatans out there. But I am telling the honest truth!

    I got laid before, sure. But only something like once a year, and with girls that I didn’t ‘really’ want. I could never approach girls I REALLY wanted (i.e hot girls I pass on the street).

    Please take onboard the ideas in my PDF and go out there and try it out! Then please get back in touch to let me know how it goes :)

  45. Yosha says:

    Oh, btw – I didn’t magically just get good at this! I think since joining PUATraining I’ve approached about 2000 women on the street! It’s through these experiences that I’ve learnt all of the ideas in my PDF.

  46. Gav says:

    I think the guide is better than some material that I have paid for, it’s no nonsense and straight to the point and Andy fully admits that it will take many approaches to get the good responses.

    It would be great to see an honest PUA put up a video showing the knock backs as well as the successes.

    When I first started I had never done a cold approach, one day I went out and did about 50 approaches, there were quite a few bad responses, rejections and knock backs, in fact I was very close to going home but I did not give up.

    Later I managed to get a number and a date from an HB8 and a couple of great reactions and conversations from one HB8 and another HB10.

    If I had made a 5 minute video of my day and showed the highlights people would think I was a proper PUA Or even an MPUA.

    If you want the successes then you have got to be willing to take the knock backs, this game is very hard and there are no short cuts or magic pills and anyone who says differently or tries to sell a PUA product promising a shortcut is a liar.

  47. Onder says:

    I totally agree with what you said Gav… And here’s whats beautiful about Yosha’s approach which i totally agree with and endorse to everyone who comes to me for advice. And that’t to be natural and direct.

    Some PUA’s would argue: “Well yes but with GAME i could potentially get any girl i want”
    which is true. If you have tight game, you can potentially get any girl you want to, but will all these girl’s have liked you for you or the GAME you played in order to make them want to hook up with you in the first place?…

    It’s a debatable topic but it really does make a lot of sense when put into perspective. When you GAME a girl, you will have her long enough to get laid. It won’t work long term because your real self will eventually come through and won’t be able to stay in that facade for too long. This is where Yosha’s approach becomes so effective because with honesty and directness comes congruency. You will not only filter out the girls that aren’t interested but you will also attract the girls that like you for you and in turn show you trust and respect since they will know you’re an honest guy.

    So unlike GAME where your dishonesty will show through, in turn cutting out LTR possibilities with the girl through lack of trust. You will have complete choice (because of your honesty) with how you would like the relationship to go (Either short term or LTR) which either way, will be respected for it…

    Saying that, learning traditional GAME is a good starting point to learn and understand the theory and fully recommend it, but eventually, you will have to trust in your own character and self in order to really see how attractive you are… All of us are attractive, we just need to go o a journey in order to realise it. And it’s GAME that does it :)

  48. Charlie says:

    i cant be arsed to read your pdf. im sure its interesting but ive read enough.

  49. Charlie says:

    yes thats very beautiful writing gav and onder. shame ive heard that bullshit a million times.

  50. Perfection says:

    Thank you so much for the PDF Yosha ,you are the man ,love your fashion and style .I was a AFC like you now I’m geting good but not as good as you mate

  51. Onder says:

    Charlie,

    Hang in there mate… I have to agree with you… There will come a point where you will stop and say “enough with the bullshit already, i need to take action”… It’s then when you get fire in your belly to actually go and do something about it… To me, what i truly believe in is that we need something serious to happen to us in order for this to happen. If you look every good PUA who has taken strides, they’ve all come from a previously bad situation.

    With me specifically, it was through a really bad experience with a girl which happened late last year, It was at that point that i decided to take action…

    For everyone reading this, i advise to think of a reason why you want to change… Don’t just want to do this for the sake of doing it. Do it because YOU want to change for the better… Don’t wait until something bad happens to you. You will thank yourselves in the long run. And as far as approaching girls are concerned… I’ve yet to see any one of them seriously hurt me… The worst that has happened is them walk away… I’m sure you guys can live with that…

    Follow everyone’s advice on here and go out and take action… It’s really easy guys the minute you start seeing how simple it is to approach…

  52. Crush says:

    yes charlie! your almost angry n pisd enough to grab ur balls n talk to a woman!

  53. Crush says:

    read everything (internalize it)

    grab ur balls (read ALL and watch all David D)

    forget everything, be yourNEWself

  54. Thomas Ames says:

    Hey I’m interested in doing web design for you guys. I’d be willing to do it for free in exchange for some tips! Shoot me a mail.

  55. sexyboy says:

    i saw a most charming interview with gambler and this chick called faye. most insightful. she seems quite charming.

    i enjoyed the semantics that come into play into the construction of the interview set. ie the bed.

  56. sexyboy says:

    it comes to show that sometimes its a case of they either like you or they dont really. when it comes to chicks.

  57. Tom says:

    I can understand that some guys feel bitter about game as it isn’t that easy as it appears e.g. in “The Game” or other ‘zero to hero’-books. After 1.5 years in this I find myself feeling bitter and quite desperate too from time to time. E.g. the other night i opened 9 sets, just one hooked (no numbers though).
    But what is the alternative?

    Yosha, all the more thanks A LOT for your willingness to help, your positivity and your good hints, that sure will help me a lot.

  58. sexyboy says:

    the worst part is comparing oneself to the layreports on forums! becuase those guys make it seem like they could get any woman and get sex 24/7 so one feels like one is missing out!

  59. aguy says:

    Hi Yosha, I have a question:

    How do you approach groups? Do you approach groups with men in them as well?

  60. luke says:

    Let me just start by saying that Onder is a notorious keyboard jockey, who writes mountains of advice on the LSS but hasnt been laid once since starting game.

    Also, to all the guys who are saying that yoshas transformation write up wont be worth reading because he didnt start off as a complete loser can go fuck themselves. Not everyone in the community is a 35 year old virgin with no social life, some people (like me) have slept with an average amount of women, have great friends, a good career and interests that appeal to women. These guys want to learn how to get more attractive women then they are currently getting as well as learn how to pull girls in the day. I know the gurus promise loser to mpua transformations, which they cant really deliver, but try not to drag the rest of us down with you, mmkay?

    much love.

  61. onder says:

    Luke,

    I won’t defend myself based on what one person wrote since i think it’s pointless. Though what i can say is if someone is to judge something based on what they read on a forum without any prior direct contact with that person is obviously very immature and obviously rude…

    I would also appreciate it if you made comments directly at me rather than making sweeping generalisations and then attempt to make it public for further scrutiny, without anything to back it up…

    you’ve obviously come very far in your journey in self improvement and with other people and so far it’s looking rather promising indeed…

    I welcome your response mate…

    All the best

  62. luke says:

    onder, it wasnt a sweeping generalisation, it was the truth.
    How many women have you slept with since discovering game?

  63. onder says:

    It’s an answer which i will leave for myself and to the women who i’ve slept with and also respect when it comes to their privacy (The reason why i don’t post lay reports)

    And in my opinion, Game isn’t about getting laid, it’s simply about YOU… If you can’t see that then good luck on your numbers mate…

    Onder,

  64. luke says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    if anyone one else is wondering, Onder has slept with 0 women since starting game, and iirc 3 in total.

    And of course game is about getting laid, wtf are you on about mate?

  65. onder says:

    Message me on the LSS… I’m curious to know who you are… I’m assuming you won’t for obvious reasons…

  66. curious says:

    if a guy is already well-adjusted stable has a good career goods friends (like yosha and everyone else on the puatraining except gambler… maybe.) then progress in game is fairly easy and takes not too long.

    On the other hand if one starts off really fucked then the road to success in game is alot harder. but the only reason guys make it in PUA is because they were already pretty confident anyway and think they are warriors because they made an easy improvement which wasnt to hard anyway. almost none started off in a really difficult place and made it to success.

  67. babyface says:

    i enjoy gamblers interviews on the dvds he does. it must take alot of bravery for a woman to do an interview on the disease ridden bedsheets of gambler! i swear gamblers body language is so fake and he is blatently the only one who thinks its cool. but he gets women so wot do i know.

  68. Mr.W says:

    Perhaps most noteworthy is Yosha’s comment that “the approach is your demonstration of higher value.” (No routines and tricks necessary.) It’s also a show of dominance and intent.

    What’s more, direct day game eliminates night game’s competitive arena.

    I think a follow up about converting these numbers into lays is in order.

  69. lol from website designer to pua eh? lol! :D

  70. sexyboy says:

    from well adjusted already got women already had friends already was emotional and mentally stable to a pua eh? LOL! :D

  71. Pua Lingo says:

    Ditto the grammar errors, but this is good stuff. Love the diagram :)

  72. Serge Lauper says:

    I honestly can’t understand why you, Richard, promoted this.

    Thanks anyway,

    S.

  73. jon says:

    Who is this Luke guy, seems like a total prat- what are you doing on this website-knobhead

  74. Andre says:

    Yosha thanks so much. I’m a 16 year old who is okay socially but as of yet has not had a girlfriend. Today I went out into downtown san francisco and tried to stop some girls. I tried talking indirectly by asking questions, openers etc.. but they never really go anywhere. Well, I tried to sum up all my courage and I practically ran down two girls and stoped them by saying I thought one of them was pretty etc.. and I wanted to say hi. They reacted really well and started talking to me. My energy and body language were really good. However, as soon as I felt the conversation start to die down I got scared and ejected. In retrospect, the girls seemed into me and I regret not having stayed. Out of all the pua material your guide produces the quickest results. It also is the scariest to try! I think for teens this is by far the best guide because we never have the opportunity to go to clubs, bars etc…

  75. Rav says:

    Hey Yosha, you talkabout ollie’s PDF,Itried looking for ,t wIth no luck. could you provide a Link. cheers

  76. George Rosebush says:

    Seems that there are a lot of very negative people on this. My question to all of them is, if you are such a non-believer, why would you spend so much time going through these materials and putting everyone else down? How does that help anyone? It wastes your own time because you’re posting on a website full of info that you don’t believe in, getting responses from people who you don’t trust while wasting their time as well. If you have the answer, well then why don’t YOU go and do it? I’m guessing it’s because whatever it is you’re doing isn’t working. And if I’m wrong about that, then why are you here?

  77. oh ok says:

    thx for the typical response.

  78. oh ok says:

    we all havent heard that type of response like a billion times before!

  79. meh says:

    it was X10 easier for yosha since he already got women in the first place. and had a social circle etc etc.

  80. roger says:

    i agree,

    most of the puatrainers never really worked for it. and were already pretty confident and well adjusted in the first place.

  81. roger says:

    ive gone to LOADS of nlp pua dating type things and ive never seen ANYONE actually be genuinely changed by it.

    its all intellectual vanity and big talk.

    and plus i havent changed at all going to puatraining. i still dont get women.

  82. roger says:

    though its a remarkable work of conman ship.

    all you have to do is over price your bootcamps,
    lie about results,
    do a bunch of lazy seminars which you could probably do without planning,
    get a bunch of suck-up trainers who never worked to learn how to get women and were already confident anyway,
    talk with intellectual vanity.

  83. roger says:

    and many NLP trainers dont seem to really know what they are doing.

    and their results seem to be out of luck rather than skill.

  84. George Rosebush says:

    You guys are PATHETIC, the very definition of it. Oh, it didn’t work for me, oh it must all be garbage. Stop your girly complaining, nobody wants to hear it. Oh ok, just because you’ve heard it before means that you can avoid answering it? That’s also pretty pathetic, I’m not surprised nothing works for you. You all need to form your own website, “Guys who hate PUAs yet don’t get any success themselves.” It’ll get tons of hits.

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