Stealth “Extraction”
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Alot of guys know how to open…but they can’t close!
This video should help you all…
Enjoy :-)
-Rich (Gambler)
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stealth extraction, pretty solid…
so, just say you’re going to another party, then
once the group is out, you say you need to pass
by your pad quickly to meet up with people before
having a party :D
small steps
justifying…
pua guys have mad game lol
awsome pick up, i need more for openers.it was great i havent got out there yet but ill try.
Great video. Lots of insighful information…
That’s a really effective way of extracting:) I have used something like that and it worked, but your version is more accurate, so I’m gonna try! Thanks.
Some of the skills at PUA are nice and cool but from the moment smooth talking and proper technique turns into downright lying you cross a fairly clear ethical boundary and that you shouldn’t do – even if it is effective. I would not feel happy at all knowing I had to lie to get a girl to my home. Anyway thanks for the suggestion.
I see where you’re coming from Peter but there’s lying and lying. Nobody would consider a “romantic lie” to be unethical, eg. just taking your girlfriend for a walk, only to find he has set out a champagne picnic under a tree somewhere beautiful. Or going to spend the weekend with your annoying schoolfriend only to find you’d already booked flights and a great hotel in Milan – how many girls would hate that? The 2 key issues are your intentions and overcoming barriers. If you are out (I hope you are) to enjoy life and give girls fantastic times they never forget, your intentions are not at fault. As for overcoming barriers, have you ever had great rapport and mutual attraction, but nothing happened? Maybe because you were too afraid to ask, their friends made other plans for them or you just started to sound creepy or apologetic about going home together. Life is a game, and games require a suspension of disbelief. The point of Stealth, is to master this game, so girls enjoy playing with you. Peter has the right ethics, good for him, what we have to find our own ways of applying these to enjoy the lifestyle we want.
Sound advice, Rich. Always smooth. I sent you an email a while back… no reply.
To be honest with you…your some guy talking in a room with no real proof!!! I haven’t see jack #### from you. You are feeding people information, but with out any real proof…any person can make a video and talk about how to do this and that.
I just don’t buy some of that stuff you are talking about.
Post so videos, of you going out into any nightclubs and meeting some women…leaving the club with the same group of women and then back to your place with the same woman. I hope you don’t pay a women to do this task! I want to see real proof, back up what you say!
I like your shirt, Richard. Where did you get it?
Mark :)
Yeah Im with Peter,
I know that Gambler wrote a book called ‘natural seduction’ but theres nothing natural about faking a phone call to trick someone.
Ive learnt much from Gambler tho
Some interesting points there Ollie II. I sometime see it as you are two actors in a game, and anything goes really as long as you show her an amazing time.
Girls play games too.. Is it not fair for a girl to say she wants to dance when she really wants to get the hell away from you? Saying you own a company when you do not is lying. The idea is to maintain honesty. I would try to be more honest about why the other friends did not come. For example, “They never called..oh well..their loss.” As far as proof, when you understand a little bit about the female modus operandi, you can understand how these things will work. No need for in-field footage. I sometimes think of openers or transitions or any other thing to say, and I know that they will function to forward an interaction because 95% (or more) of the response is based on the delivery. One of my favorite openers I came up with was (girl texting) “What’s your high score?” as if she’s playing a game. It comes out more like “Oh my god!! (pause) What’s your high score?! (overly curious expression). Back to the point though. This is the Internet, the information is here if you want it. Rich, what you say (in my opinion) is awesome. I did as you did which was study the theory for a while, I was confident with my looks and style and when I finally… got over AA, it was like magic :). Thanks man.
Awesome stuff! Makes a lot of sense…
However, I live about 8 kilometers outside of the city centre (where all the clubs are), so I can’t really “stop by at my house before going to the new club”. I have to take the taxi or bus to get home from clubs… How would you solve that problem?
Sounds good!
Reason I say this! Because I’ve never had a problem with walking into any pub or night club and walking out with women in about 10 to 20 minutes! I’m trying to work what is true and not true with him…
Hey Steve I was thinking the same thing as I used to live closer to the city. My approach is to get girls interested and make them close: it usually happens like this.
1. Open 5 or 6 sets and talk for 5-10 minutes on each
2. If you’ve been playful, funny, cocky, an asshole, whatever your style is, then you’ll find some girls asking if you’re a player. Don’t change your attitude.
3. In a group of girls if one of them likes you, the leader of the group will come up to you and ask if you like her friend.
4. Her friend wants to bang you so there’s not much you can do to fuck it up from here, you could probably get her to give you head in the taxi or bus home if you wanted to.
That said if you want to follow Gambler’s advice, then think about what he said. You’re not going back to the club, you’re going to have fun at your house party and 8km isn’t that far anyway. You can tell her that you bought a new outfit today and want to change into it before you go out again. You’d be surprised how easy it is to get girls to go along with things if you tell them what’s going on.
Nice advice Sizzle, I can imagine that working. I’ll try next time I’m out.
If some of you guys haven’t bought Richards book yet I’d recommend it. It’s a great basic structure. Start reading it then get yourselves out there. You just have to muster a bit of belief and the results will blow you away. If they don’t, at least you’ve faced your fears.
Richard, thanks for that video: I bought the full “Stealth Seduction” videos some weeks ago and at the beggining I thought the same that Peter says: I don’t like lying. But then I realized what Ollie II says and, although I have not used it yet, I think next time I go out I’ll be confortable extracting a girl to a “house party”.
dont know….dat fake phone call in the end could turn out to be viewed as a setup and creepy…unless you know she is just faking resistance and you know that in the end she wont mind that no one ‘showed up’…its kind of a gamble…i’ve a friend who plainly asks the girl if she would like to come over to his place to watch a movie, and it works…you are not lying and wont have to come up with reasons about why no one showed up…the way ‘Gambler’ puts it, seems to be like in the case that you are not sure if she will accept, so, it seems to me there is a good chance that the fake party might be seen as creepy…
This lie, while well-intentioned, is still wrong because it takes away her ability to make an informed decision.
If a woman wants to have sex with a guy she just met, and she needs a cover story to tell her friends so she isn’t considered a slut, she better make it painfully clear. That’s her job. At that point his job is to painfully clearly hand her a cover story with as many winks and nudges as it takes.
Do you want a guy to lie like this to your sister?
Steve, 95% of guys are in the same boat as you & don’t live near the club. You think you have it bad, I live in the country it’s around 9 miles to the nearest small town! I’ve driven a girl home here 70 miles from a night out (she just HAD to see my lovely house in Suffolk) and run her to the bus station in the morning, so nothing’s impossible. Matt Hussey started out sleeping in his office! So, make new friends with guys with city pads. If you are bringing (groups of) cool girls back they will be begging you to stay more often. All this is covered in detail on the Stealth DVDs…
Bernie and Dan, I do see where you are coming from. How about saying we always have loads of people back at ours I’ll get some of the girls/guys along you’re going to have such a laugh. Then make the calls for real – in this day and age, you won’t find any shortage of people who are up for a party but get waylaid and let you down for real.
What Gambler has done, is laid out a template of what will feel right and comfortable for most girls you’ll be talking to. Of course you can adapt it to your own style and beliefs. Have your own stong morals is good, but stop worrying about what you THINK girls won’t like. I’ve seen Rich around women they don’t find him creepy, far from it. The authenticity dilemma was covered in The Natural Art of Seduction book. Interesting discussion, but I think sometimes we allow things like this as an exuse to get sidetracked. Ultimately, this debate is stealth procrastination not stealth attraction!
You know what I think works? Being respectful to women, instead of using them as a tool for your own short pleasure. I reckon if you appear as yourself, don’t worry about what happens on the night, and let her know you’re a trustworthy and nice person instead of just appearing as one, then that might work for any form of long term relationship. The reason you’re doing this is becuase you’re doing this – if you were just chatty and suave, whithout caring so much about the actual pull, you proabably wouldn’t be so desperate.
I respectfully disagree. I have seen the argument of “don’t use problems with details as an excuse not to take action on the abstract concept” way too many times.
The details are real and they are all that matters. In this case, the detail is whether you say something that is true or something that is not true.
If you call friends and they say they’re coming and the girl agrees to go with you based on this true information, but the friends flake, that’s perfectly honest. So, great idea. If they tell you they’re busy and you tell her they’re coming, that’s not honest.
“stop worrying about what you THINK girls won’t like”
I have a lot of problems with that statement. For starters, I asked a girl what she thought of this specific situation and I KNOW she SAID she would not like it. Does that mean she thinks I’m creepy? Does the adage “what she says she wants is not the same as what she wants” give me free reign to do whatever I think she wants as long as my intentions are good and I know she doesn’t think I’m creepy?
This is a tough dilemma and I can hardly imagine a girl being upset after an amazing night that was made possible by the guy telling a lie.
I would like to know exactly when Richard believes it is and is not okay for guys in general to lie to women.
“I can hardly imagine a girl being upset after an amazing night that was made possible by the guy telling a lie.”
I think Gambler, and PUA’s like him, believe this because that’s what happens to them. Most women feel a greater connection with a guy after sleeping with them, so if you can do that ASAP after meeting them, you increase the chances she will be forgiving and want to continue seeing you. A friend of mine who’s a natural says he will bs women then after hooking up with them say, “Oh, did I say that? I was just KIDDING. Hehe.” He smiles and laughs nicely about it so they think he’s just a bit mischievous. It’s hard to be angry at some guy who is acting a bit like Bart Simpson.
As someone alluded to, women lie all the time to seem more impressive or get out of situations. If you call them on it, they will find some justification. Perhaps Gambler is saying we act similarly.
There is a part of me that feels total decency and old-fashioned honesty is the only truly right path.
But I honestly believe that there is a place in life for white lies, fibs and distortions of the truth. What is important, in my opinion, is: intention, a personal framework of morality and self-awareness (of what you are doing).
So I am happy being a decent guy, and will continue to be honest about my dishonesty!
Whats up peeps? Solid video, works well usually but after trying it out a couple times i figured out that after you pick a target but before the approach you should make some friends AT THE CLUB. So whether or not you have friends to back up your plan, you will be well know at the club anyways so the comfort level will rise though the roof